jí xiàn
极限
shī yā
施压
zhōng guó shì
中国式
fǎn zhì
反制
Maximum Pressure and China's Countermeasures
chén zhì gāo陈智高wáng míng yuè王明月tàn tǎo探讨zhōng měi中美bó yì博弈xīndòng xiàng动向tè lǎng pǔ特朗普tán pàn谈判yì shù艺术zhōng guó中国yìng duì应对cè lüè策略

陈智高 and 王明月 discuss new trends in the China-US game, Trump's negotiation tactics, and China's response strategies.

王明月
shī fù师父nínkànzuì jìn最近dexīn wén新闻lemaměi guó美国yòuduìzhōng guó中国jiā qiáng加强lejì shù技术guǎn zhì管制háixiǎngzhōng guó中国ràng bù让步gǎn jué感觉tè lǎng pǔ特朗普hái shì还是lǎotào lù套路

Master, have you seen the news lately? The US has tightened technology controls on China again and is trying to force China to give in. It feels like Trump is using the same old tricks.

陈智高
zhù yì注意dàolezhèzhèng shì正是suǒ wèi所谓dejiāo yì de yì shù交易的艺术tè lǎng pǔ特朗普dejí xiàn极限shī yā施压shuō bái le说白了shìqiāo zhú gàng敲竹杠dànzhōng guó中国bú shì不是dāng nián当年dezhōng guó中国zhè zhǒng这种é zhà讹诈shìcè lüè策略zǎo jiù早就bèishí pò识破

I've noticed. This is exactly what's called 'the art of the deal.' Trump's maximum pressure is basically just extortion. But China is not what it used to be—this kind of blackmail has already been seen through.

王明月
shìaduǎn qī短期kànměi guó美国dedòng zuò动作tǐngqiáng shì强势zhōng guó中国shǒu lǐ手里xī tǔ稀土děngguān jiàn关键zī yuán资源shìyìngchóu mǎ筹码měi fāng美方měi cì每次jiā mǎ加码xiàn zhì限制zhōng guó中国zǒng néng总能zhǎo dào找到fǎn zhì反制zhīdào

Yeah, in the short term, the US actions seem tough, but China has hard leverage like rare earths. Every time the US escalates restrictions, China always finds a way to counter.

陈智高
xī tǔ稀土shìdāng qián当前duìměifǎn zhì反制dezhòng yào重要gàng gǎn杠杆kànzuì jìn最近zhōng guó中国duìměixī tǔ稀土chū kǒu出口xià jiàng下降jìnliù chéng六成guān jiàn关键huán jié环节shōu jǐn收紧měifānglì kè立刻leguó jì国际tán pàn谈判qí shí其实shìchóu mǎ筹码nài lì耐力dejiào liàng较量

Rare earths are an important lever for countering the US right now. Look, recently China's rare earth exports to the US dropped by nearly 60%. As soon as China tightens control over key areas, the US gets anxious. International negotiations are really a battle of leverage and endurance.

王明月
dànxī fāng西方yú lùn舆论hái shì还是xǐ huān喜欢shuōzhōng guó中国huìqū fú屈服qí shí其实zhōng guó中国lǐng dǎo céng领导层duìměi guó美国zhè zhǒng这种yī shǒu shī yā yī shǒu tán pàn一手施压一手谈判deshǒu fǎ手法zǎoyǒuzhǔn bèi准备

But Western media still likes to say China will give in. Actually, China's leadership has long been prepared for the US approach of 'pressuring with one hand and negotiating with the other.'

陈智高
zhèzhèngtǐ xiàn体现lezhàn lüè战略zì zhǔ自主dìng lì定力miàn duì面对dān biān zhǔ yì单边主义jí xiàn极限shī yā施压zhōng guó中国gèngzhù zhòng注重wéi hù维护zì shēn lì yì自身利益chǎn yè产业ān quán安全bú huì不会bèiyī shí一时fēng shēng风声dàiluànzhèn jiǎo阵脚

This exactly shows strategic autonomy and composure. Faced with unilateralism and maximum pressure, China focuses more on safeguarding its own interests and industrial security, and won't be thrown off by momentary noise.

王明月
zhù yì注意dàoyǒu xiē有些měi guó美国jīng jì jiè经济界rén shì人士dōukāi shǐ开始fǎn sī反思lemó gēn dà tōng摩根大通dedài méng戴蒙zhí jiē直接shuōzhōng guó中国bìngbù pà不怕guān shuì关税měi guó美国dezuì dà最大wèn tí问题qí shí其实zàizì shēn自身

I've also noticed that some American business people have started to reflect. Dimon from JPMorgan directly said that China is not afraid of tariffs—the real problem for the US is internal.

陈智高
shuōméi cuò没错yǔ qí与其bù duàn不断jiā mǎ加码shī yā施压dàobù rú不如sī kǎo思考rú hé如何zhōng guó中国gòng yíng共赢shí dài时代zǎo yǐ早已bù tóng不同zhōng guó中国jì yǒu既有dǐ xiàn底线yǒudǐ qì底气zhèchǎngbó yì博弈jué fēi绝非kàoqiāo zhú gàng敲竹杠jiùnéngzhàndàopián yi便宜de

That's right. Instead of constantly escalating pressure, it would be better to think about how to achieve win-win with China. The times have changed—China has both its bottom line and confidence. In this game, you can't win by just trying to extort benefits.

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